The way things are going… An investigation into the events of December 8th, 1980


The Ballad of John and Yoko, released as a single with “Old Brown Shoe” on the B Side was a Beatles hit in 1969.  It never made any official album, but was used in several compilation albums post-breakup. The lyrics take us on a ride through John and Yoko’s struggle to get married.  Which they eventually did on the Spring Equinox, March 20th, 1969. Might this be yet another “clue” inserted into John Lennon’s music and artforms foreshadowing his death?

They’re going to crucify me

TheNumberNineBlog has touched on John Lennon’s mysterious, sometimes alarming premonitions in past articles. I think it is high time to discuss the high strangeness revolving around his death, and the implications of what an alternative perspective might contain. This December 8th, 2016 will be the 36th anniversary of John Lennon’s death. The crime that was never fully investigated, I personally feel that many fans do not know the whole story and the various issues and direct contradictions that present themselves within. From time to time, I may refer to certain premonitions explained in the article; The Prophecies of John but it is not necessary to have that information to follow this article. There are many oddities and “strange coincidences” surrounding the Beatles, (I’m sure I’ve mentioned that before. That’s why this blog exists in the first place. 🙂 ) lennonnySome of the official accounts we have been given surrounding the deaths and happenings of certain persons in and around the Beatles camp have never quite sat right with me. John Lennon’s death is probably the biggest elephant in the room of them all. This subject has been the plot of many books as well as films, documentaries, articles, commentaries etc. and while I am not trying to one up any of those accounts, I am hoping to provide a wider perspective and a bit of deeper questioning involved in the case surrounding my favorite ex-Beatle, John Lennon.

It is important to remember throughout this article, as well as any information you come across on this topic- The John Lennon homicide case was never properly investigated. The suspect, Mark David Chapman was arrested on site, and presumed to be the lone shooter, and pleaded guilty to the murder. It was a grounded investigation. Proper, careful investigative measures were not taken because police had their suspect. Case closed. No more to see here. But what if there is more to this story?  What if justice wasn’t completely served? I have cited sources extensively for this article from a very informative blog, The X Spot, by X Dell which can be found here. I highly recommend if interested reading over this series of articles for a very well-written account of the events in question. Also, Fenton Bresler’s book “Who Killed John Lennon” may be the most authoritative, informative, realistic investigation of the investigation that never took place. A great read for truth seekers and Beatles-fans alike. This truth in my opinion, is very important, and little known to the general populace.  We must not let this fade into obscurity. We owe it to John at the very least.

I think most of us know the official narrative that accompanies John Lennon’s untimely death.  But for those in need of a refresher, a brief recap:

(for a more detailed account try here.)

  • John Lennon was shot in the back by a deranged fan by the name of Mark David Chapman (MDC- going forward here) in front of his Dakota Apartment building in New York City, December 8th, 1980 around 10:50pm (times vary by account).
  • He was hit by four bullets, however five rounds were reported to have been fired. Two of the bullets hit Lennon in the upper left back, and two in his left shoulder. After being hit, it is reported Lennon turned around and exclaimed “They’ve shot me” climbed up a few steps towards the voyeur of the Dakota Building before collapsing.
  • Police arrived within 2 minutes of the initial call (made by Dakota employee Jay Hastings), promptly arrested MDC who was “calmly” standing in front of the Dakota waiting for police to arrive reading a copy of The Catcher in the Rye. The officers hoisted Lennon into the backseat of the patrol car and delivered him to Roosevelt Hospital where he was pronounced dead on arrival at 11:15 pm. (For those keeping track, that’s approximately 25 minutes from shots fired to being pronounced dead).

Stepping out (just for awhile)

Pay particular attention to what Lennon looks like at this time, and what he is wearing on this fateful evening. It will be important later. The above series of photos were taken by Paul Goresh, an amateur photographer and fan of Lennon’s who often hung out in front of the Dakota in hopes of snapping a few pictures of his hero, John Lennon. Goresh took this photo above hours prior to John’s death. Lennon is seen here signing MDC’s copy of the “Double Fantasy” album, and that is MDC himself cut off on the right side of the photograph. At the time this photo was taken, Lennon was leaving the apartment building with Yoko to finish mixing a new recording of Yoko’s “Walking on Thin Ice“.  The recording studio sent a limo to pick the couple up called “The Record Plant”.

-Point of interest: “The Record Plant” facility in New York was bought by Sir George Martin in 1987, and was closed very quickly after.

Curiosity Number One:

The Paul Goresh pictures. Thanks to Miles Mathis’s brilliant paper on John Lennon (linked here) we can realize some possible foolery going on with Goresh’s photographs. But beyond that, this is simply the first of a series of anomalies surrounding this story. First and foremost, Goresh began his run-ins with Lennon by forging his way into the Dakota.  He masqueraded as a TV repairman and swindled his way into the Lennon’s livingroom. He (admittedly) continued to stalk John Lennon, and at first according to Goresh himself- Lennon would not allow Goresh to take any photos of him. Regardless, Goresh continued to stalk and secretly take pictures of John anyway. Apparently, John had a change of heart and allowed Goresh to take photos of him once Double Fantasy had gone public. Goresh accounts the two of them even began to go on walks together, and he was invited into the Lennon’s home on more than one occasion. The Lennon’s even used one of Goresh’s amateur photos for their single “Watching the Wheels” whose lyrics sync interestingly well with the plot line of Catcher in the Rye, as well as Goresh’s photo featuring John and Yoko in the very spot John would be killed a month later. Pretty good for a man who swindled his way into getting into John’s house. But… that doesn’t count as foreshadowing right? But wait- there’s more.

Watching the Wheels Released November 17, 1980 Photo by Paul Goresh

As if that wasn’t lucky enough for this amateur photographer stalker gone Lennon-pal, Goresh got his big moment mere weeks later when he happened to be in the right place at the right time and captured John Lennon’s assassin on film on December 8th, 1980. Goresh immediately sold the photo to the New York Daily News for a reported $10,000, but managed to receive residual royalties earning him well over a million in 35 years. Yoko Ono also purchased several photographs from Goresh that were used in the posthumous release “Imagine” documentary.

Today, Paul Goresh is a recluse. He lives on the outer-fringes of society.  Rarely granting interviews or offering commentary  on his part in this story.  The story that has been told and retold countless times over the years, Paul Goresh’s tale is a quite unique.  Although haunting and morbid- Goresh’s part was essential to the entire scene and couldn’t have been timed more perfectly. A re-creation of Paul’s story was made for a TV documentary in 1990 on the 10 year anniversary of John’s passing. It is quite chilling to watch. Was there anything that Goresh failed to tell us??

 Walking on Thin Ice

1374069066001-stonecover-016-1307170953_3_4Directly after the photograph was snapped with John Lennon and his assailant by Goresh, John and Yoko left for The Record Plant, where they were working on Yoko’s latest song, “Walking on thin ice“. According to official stories, John and Yoko caught a ride with RKO personality  Dave Sholin because the limo from The Record Plant had been delayed. Dave Sholin and crew from RKO had just completed John Lennon’s final interview moments earlier inside the Dakota apartment. Moments before that, John had what would become his infamous final photo shoot with Annie Leibovitz where John appeared naked clenched to Yoko’s clothed body, featured on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine. (Pictured left) John in fetal position, in the nude- clinging onto “Mother” Yoko, seems a bit symbolic to me, but that’s a topic for another article.  Moving on for now.

-Point of Interest: In the Beatles strange avant-garde “Revolution No. 9” from the White Album, Yoko can be heard repeating the line: “If you become naked.”  There are other curiosities that seem to tie in with John’s death from this track as well. More on that later.

While at the Record Plant Studio, they began mixing a track credited solely to Yoko titled “Walking on thin Ice”. On the version included on 1992’s Onobox, a new intro was added, where John Lennon can be heard remarking “I think you just cut your first number one, Yoko.” This peculiar track has some very interesting lyrics.

I gave you my knife,
You gave me my life
Like a gush of wind in my hair.
Why do we forget what’s been said
And play the game of life with our hearts?

I may cry some day,
But the tears will dry whichever way.
And when our hearts return to ashes,
It’ll be just a story,
It’ll be just a story.

The duo had just finished mixing the final cut of the track, and decided to head home.

Curiosity Number two:

The details as to how exactly the pair returned home are a bit fuzzy.  The story cited most often is that the Lennon’s personal white limo and driver picked them up from the studio and returned them home at approximately 10:50 pm. The Dakota building itself has a secure-gated entrance in which cars can easily drive thru and park inside (which is the norm).  For whatever reason, the Lennon’s decided to exit the limousine on 72nd street, and walk into the Dakota from the front entrance. It is unclear where the driver went from the point of drop-off.  Surely, the driver would have driven a bit past the pair and driven directly into the secured gates to park the car for the evening? This apparently did not happen, because John was shot just moments later in that very driveway.  Was the car there after the crime had been committed?  John was rushed to Roosevelt Hospital in a police squad car, was the limo not closer?  Where did the driver go? What was the drivers name? How long had he been working for the Ono-Lennon’s? Good luck finding information on this character. I have read many Lennon Biographies, watched countless documentaries, searched through gobs of information available online- typically, in most accounts from the time they pair left the Record Plant elevator to the point of drop off at the Dakota is not even mentioned… at all. One witness (which will be discussed in more detail later) arrived to the Dakota in a cab, which he mentions stopped directly behind Lennon’s limo. The driver of the cab and rider both are to witness a man shooting.  WHY were the Lennon’s were dropped off in the street, rather than within the secure compound of the Dakota Building? Why was this potential star-witness never questioned? These nagging questions always seem to get overlooked.

The entrance to the Dakota Building where Lennon was shot.  Why didn’t the driver drive in instead?

-Point of Interest: In later years, Yoko Ono had a major falling out with one of her personal drivers.  It seems as though this driver could not be the same driver the Ono-Lennon’s used in 1980… But in all honesty, it is rather unclear how long he had been an employed by Ono. Maybe he knew something?  Mr. Karsan, Ono’s personal driver attempted to use extortion against Yoko reportedly on the anniversary of John’s death. An article about the incident can be examined here. It is explained in part:  “Prosecutors say that Mr. Karsan read the letter to Ms. Ono in her apartment at the Dakota on Dec. 8, the 26th anniversary of the killing of her husband, John Lennon, by a crazed fan. They have characterized it as an extortion letter, saying that Mr. Karsan threatened to release embarrassing tapes and photos and to kill Ms. Ono if she did not pay him $2 million so he could return to his native Turkey.”

Living on Borrowed Time

We are told, upon arriving at the Dakota, Yoko exits the car first and John is quite a few steps behind (10-30 feet behind depending on your source) clutching the newly mixed tape of Walking on Thin Ice in his grasp. If the reason for exiting the limo on the street was to “enjoy the beautiful mild New York evening” (as has been said) why were they not walking together… enjoying the beautiful New York evening together?  Aside from that, as has been pointed out- it was a mild December evening, in New York City- dubbed “The City That Never Sleeps” for good reason. It’s an incredibly busy, bustling city! Especially in front of John Lennon’s home which not only has a bus route stop directly in front, but a subway entrance around the corner and Central Park directly across the street. Not to mention the reports of countless fans and admirers that would camp out in front of the Dakota in hopes of catching a glimpse/picture/autograph of John and Yoko.  So given all of this, perhaps it is a bit surprising to you that on this particular evening- NO ONE was around to witness the events about to unfold. No one except of course the just arrived Yoko Ono and John Lennon, his alleged assailant MDC, and the Dakota Doorman Jose Pedormo. One other witness standing outside of the Dakota building on 72nd street pulled up shortly thereafter, in time to observe MDC shooting, but not who he was shooting at. Source  A few other witnesses heard the shots, and came to the scene soon after, but did not actually witness the crime being committed.

New York Times sketch of crime scene December, 1980

As Yoko walks into the Dakota courtyard, she passes MDC waiting in the shadows under the right side of the archway. Yoko and John walk by MDC on his left (see graphics).  Official accounts recall that Yoko gives a nod in greeting to MDC as she passes by. John does as well. Once John is a few paces in front of Chapman, he says “Mr. Lennon?” To which Lennon turns to acknowledge. MDC drops into combat stance and fires five rounds in Lennon’s direction from approximately nine feet away. (This account was in some of the very earliest accounts and has since been disputed- there are a few conflicting accounts as to what exactly happened.)

Remember, there are only a few witnesses here to retell the story. That becomes highly relevant and important to keep in mind as we continue.

Curiosity number three:

img_0152Outside of the Dakota at this time, a taxi cab is alleged to have pulled up directly behind John and Yoko’s limo (not pictured in graphic). He claims to have exited the cab in time to see MDC standing outside of the Dakota gates closer to the right side of the archway, actively shooting. The witness was unable to see who was being targeted. Source This testimony is useful in a few ways. Not only does it give us a direct position of MDC, it also seems to confirm that John and Yoko’s limo was still parked in front of the Dakota building as the shots occurred. Who WAS this driver? How could MDC’s bullets be found in the doorway of the Dakota on the right side of the arch, given his position as witnessed? According to the graphic above as published by the Daily news- the bullets took a hard right turn. Talk about magic bullets!!

 One and One and One is Three

There are several accounts of exactly where John was shot. Chief Medical examiner, Dr. Frank Veteran reports four bullets hitting John in the back. Dr. Veteran stated specifically, “Lennon had been shot four times from the left at point blank range.” Veteran also stated that the shot appeared to have come from a .357 magnum. (MDC is officially reported to be standing 10-30 feet away at the time of shooting, and used a Charter arms undercover .38 special. Discrepancies, discrepancies!)

At this time, the most accepted explanation is that John arrived in the E.R. that evening with a total of 7 wounds- 4 entry wounds, and 3 exit wounds. The wounds were close together indicating a “good shot group” meaning the bullets were close together, and well placed. This seemingly was not a shot group of an amateur (or if it was he got extremely lucky).  One bullet hit Lennon in the upper left shoulder area, and passed out through his chest completely. Two more bullets hit John in the left back area, near the shoulder and also exited through the chest. The death certificate indicates that the fatal bullet had a specific route passing through the left shoulder, then the left subclavian artery, the left lung, and finally the aorta. Accounts also recall a single bullet that did not hit Lennon, instead going over his head and into a glass pane on the side of the Dakota building. However, there were a total of three bullet holes in the Dakota lobby doorway. Two are alleged to be the two bullets that exited John’s chest- hitting the glass door pane. (More discrepancies here- will be discussed later).
Later, the doctor which attended Lennon’s wounds, Dr. Stephen Lynn admitted the immaculate precision of the shots. There was no way John would have survived these injuries. (More on the doctor’s interesting role in this later). Was MDC a professional hitman? Was he just an incredibly good shot? Did he just get lucky?

Curiosity Number 3 and a half:

Immediately after the shooting, according to reports, a few strange incidents occurred.

Firstly, John Lennon, fatally wounded but still alive staggered into the Dakota lobby up a few stairs and collapsed, saying “They’ve shot me“. In statements given by Yoko herself, she is apparently unsure if she was in front or behind John at the time. Source. But regardless, it is important to note that John is INSIDE the lobby at this point.  Any random images you see on the internet claiming to be John Lennon dead in the street, or on the sidewalk or anywhere else are fake. There are no known photos of John Lennon shot at the Dakota. We only have witness (albeit a few) accounts to go on here.

Lobby attendant, Jay Hastings tends to Lennon at this point, removes his glasses and tries to console Lennon. He also removes his uniform jacket and covers Lennon’s chest wounds.  Hastings then notifies the police from the Front Desk. No word about where Yoko was at this point in time, but it is assumed she was also near Lennon, consoling him. Outside the lobby doors at this time, Jose Perdomo, the Dakota doorman asks MDC;

“Do you know what you just did?”

To which Chapman replies, “I just shot John Lennon”.

MDC drops the gun, removes his jacket and according to witnesses paces about for a few seconds. Jose Perdomo at this time tells MDC;

“Go on, get out of here.”

“Where would I go?”

Replies Chapman, who then pulls from his pocket and begins to read J.D. Salinger’s A Catcher in the Rye until police arrive minutes later.

Joseph Many (Dakota elevator operator) is asked by Jose Perdomo to remove the dropped gun. Many picks it up, and promptly removes it from the scene. The weapon is taken to the adjacent freight elevator which leads to the basement. Important here is that the gun was removed from the scene, and later returned to police as evidence.

Joseph Many, the elevator operator for the Dakota complex, told Officer Clark that he arrived on his shift at 3:30pm that day. He saw Chapman talking to Jeri Moll, whom he recognized as a regular. Many saw Chapman at 9:30, and asked him “Why are you still hanging around here; you already got his autograph?”

Shortly before 11:00pm, he heard three shots while in the basement with two other Dakota employees, Victor Cruz and Joe Grezik. He went upstairs, where Perdomo motioned to the gun, saying, “Get this out of here.” Many took the gun, went downstairs, and hid it in a drawer before handing it over to the police. Source

-Point of interest:  Jose Perdomo the Dakota doorman has ties to the CIA. According to several sources Perdomo worked as the Chief of Police under Batista in Cuba, was exiled in the US under Castro, was the operations coordinator/recruiter in Operation 40 and took part in the Bay of Pigs incident in Cuba as well. Quite an interesting person. More here.

The John Lennon Gun

The gun, a Charter arms undercover .38 special 5 shooter with the initials “PM” carved into the shaft? Rather odd. The two bullets recovered were hollow-tip bullets, according to Police Evidence tags- found in John’s leather jacket at the crime scene. (Pictured above) I’m not a ballistics expert, but from what I have read, hollow tip bullets are designed specifically not to exit the target upon impact.  They “mushroom” upon impact, causing considerable damage to body tissue etc. Hollow point bullets are not supposed to ricochet– their design is specifically calibrated for this effect.  The fact that these particular hollow-tip bullets are not behaving as such is a real head scratcher. The odds are overwhelming. It’s not just one bullet behaving in strange ways- but at least 3 bullets are said to have produced exit wounds.

So what is happening here? We have yet another conflicting report. Five shooter gun. Four bullets were fired that hit Lennon. One bullet missed the target altogether- and possibly hit the glass door. Two bullets were found in his leather jacket according to police evidence. Three bullet holes in the lobby doorway. Makes a total of five bullets… right? But what about the fatal bullet that remained lodged in Lennon’s body? Wouldn’t that make a total of six bullets?

Police inspect the crime scene at the Dakota on December 8th, 1980.  Bullet holes in Doorway clearly visible. (AP Photo/Handschuh)

Instant Karma

Minutes after the shooting, Officers Steve Spiro and Peter Cullen arrive at the Dakota.  Here is a blurb from arresting officer Dave Spiro’s report:

As I point a gun at Suspect, a male white starts to put his hands up toward the top of his head. ‘Don’t move! Put your hands on the wall!’ Suspect still has hands on his head. ’Put your hands on the wall and don’t move.’ Suspect does what he is told. ’Please don’t hurt me!’ says the Suspect.

Put gun to subject’s back. I see two males to my left. I don’t know who they are (thinking a robbery–more than one gunman?) I place my left arm around Suspect’s neck moving him against me and using him as a shield to defend myself against other possible gunmen. Turning toward my right with the suspect I see the doorman, another male, and at least three bullet holes in the glass doors. My gun is now pointed toward the doorway. The doorman, who I’ve seen before while working, yells that the man I have is the only one involved. I put the Suspect back up against the wall. Suspect says, ’I acted alone! Don’t hurt me!’ ‘No one is going to hurt you.’

Still thinking that there was a robbery inside the building I start asking Suspect ‘What apartment were you in?’ ‘Who did you shoot?’ No response. I hear Jose, the doorman, yell ‘He shot John Lennon.’ I ask Suspect ‘Did you shoot John Lennon!’–No response. Pete Cullen yells ‘Steve put cuffs on him!’ As I get cuffs on the Suspect asks once again–’Don’t hurt me.’  Source

As officers Spiro and Cullen attend to MDC the suspect, another patrol car arrives with  Officers Tony Palma and Herb Frauenberger. These officers find Lennon in the Dakota lobby fatally injured, but still alive. Realizing the urgency of the situation, they decide to carry Lennon out of the Dakota and into a third squad car that had arrived moments earlier. The squad car which belonged to Officers William Gamble and James Moran, after receiving the victim drives to Roosevelt hospital where the emergency crew has been notified and ready to receive the wounded victim. Both Officers Gamble and Moran are said to be huge Beatle-fans, in route allegedly ask their passenger- “Are you John Lennon?” To which Lennon supposedly nods and moans. Neither officer recognized their passenger as being John Lennon.

-Point of Interest: Several accounts of witness interviews and testimony etc. have said that they did not recognize John Lennon that evening. The NYPD officers that took Lennon to Roosevelt hospital were simply the first to enunciate their disbelief. It was a stressful, blur of an evening for everyone involved I am sure, faulty memories, denial, shock- all of which could be at play here. But this may be important to the overall case.

 The squad car containing Lennon arrives at Roosevelt hospital a few minutes before 11pm, and though he had no vital signs at the time of arrival, the attending physicians and nurses made a “heroic effort” to save him. The attending staff recalls that no one realized who this gunshot victim was until his wallet was pulled from his pocket and an ID was discovered. His chest was cut open, and his heart was even massaged to try to get the blood pumping again. One bullet had pieced the aorta, making this impossible.  John Lennon was officially pronounced dead at 11:15pm.

John Lennon’s death certificate

Curiosity Number Four:

The two most informative, comprehensive works on this controversy as sited above were both done some time ago- Fenton Bresler’s book was published in 1989, and XDell’s articles in 2010- we have since been enlightened to a few new facts that are highly relevant to this mystery. One such fact is that for over 30 years- until 2011 to be precise, we were told that a Dr. Stephan Lynn had been the attending physician on duty that evening. Dr. Lynn had conducted several interviews over the past three decades and claimed to have been the doctor who was responsible for the “heroic effort” bestowed upon this VIP patient,  opened up the victim’s chest on this fateful evening and massaged his heart to no avail. He also claimed he was the person that informed Yoko that her husband had died.


In 2011, a man by the name of Dr. David Halleran stepped up to the plate and announced he was actually the attending physician that evening.  Halleran claims he was the one who opened Lennon’s chest to examine the extent of the injuries, he was the doctor that held the patient’s heart in his hand, he was the doctor who broke the heartbreaking news to a distraught Yoko Ono.

Why did it take 30 years for Dr. Halleran to come forward with this? Is he telling the truth? Below is his first television interview, conducted by ABC3 in 2011, this particular interview received the attention of film writer and director,  Jeremy Profe.  It inspired Profe to rewrite his already funded “Lennon Report” film project to bring this new information to light. The Lennon Report was released in theatres and online this past October, 2016 claiming to “set the record straight” about the night John Lennon died.  Here Dr. Halleran also solidifies the notion that no one recognized Lennon at the time, but in essence gives the same recount of  events in which Dr. Lynn had described for three decades prior.

Here is one of the more recent Dr. Stephen Lynn’s interviews about his role in the event of December 8th, 1980. This particular interview was filmed mere weeks prior to Dr. Halleran’s “coming out”.

As far as I know, Dr. Lynn has not refuted Dr. Halleran’s claims- nor made any comment regarding them whatsoever. Did Dr. Lynn simply want the notoriety of the historical event, claiming to be what he wasn’t? Why didn’t the nurse seen in the video interview say anything when Dr. Lynn clearly stated he massaged Lennon’s heart in his hand? Does anyone care about justice? Or maybe… they were unable to speak up? I don’t know the answers.  I hope someone still alive on this planet does though- and comes forward with truth. Better late than never….

Gimme Some Truth

After either Dr. Halleran or Dr. Lynn informed Yoko of her husband’s demise, arrangements were made for Yoko and friend David Geffen to leave Roosevelt hospital and return to the Dakota to inform Sean of his father’s passing.  Yoko had asked for a delay in the media announcement in order to give her adequate time to get back home.  Crowds were already gathering at Roosevelt as well as the Dakota, as word had already began to spread of the event. Rumors apparently spread quickly in “the city that never sleeps“.


The announcement is finally made a short time later- perhaps most remembered by fans on the United States East Coast, as it was announced by Howard Cosell during Monday Night Football in a Patriots vs. Miami Dolphins game.

-Point of Interest: The football game was nearly over, with a few seconds remaining as the Patriots prepare to kick a field goal. The Miami Dolphins “blocked that kick” immediately after the announcement was made. In Revolution #9 someone can be heard in a track loop repeating “block that kick”.

Ringo Starr and Wife, Barbara Bach were vacationing in the Bahamas when they received word of the shocking event. They immediately packed up and got on the last flight to New York.  When they arrived, they were mobbed by mourning fans holding a vigil in front of the Dakota building. Multiple witnesses outside have said that Yoko met Starr and Bach at the front (closed) gate and asked Starr to come inside alone (without Bach) to which Ringo replied;

No you don’t. If I go, Barbara goes. Remember, you started this.

The pair were let in, and a few hours later Ringo emerged from the Dakota visibly shaken and upset. It is unknown what exactly Ringo meant by “Remember you started this” but apparently, there are several witnesses who confirm this dialogue. What is even more interesting is Ringo’s first interview about John Lennon’s death.  He is obviously distraught in this interview with Sir Paul McCartney’s wife Nancy Shevell’s cousin- Barbara Walters (she seems to get all the good interviews). Here, at 0.41 seconds Ringo looks at the camera and says “I’m sure he’s ok”.  You’re sure he’s ok Ringo? Spiritually? or what?  What does that mean?

The next morning, all the major headlines revealed to the world the tragedy that had transpired the night before. What I find interesting is the amount of information the media already had access to about the crime, the suspect in custody and the details of the weeks and months leading up to the event. If you google original articles published by the various media outlets on December 9th and 10th 1980, you will see what I mean. So much information in such a short amount of time in a crime that was never even fully investigated (especially within hours of the event).  This information (however it was obtained) became the official narrative about Lennon’s death for decades afterward. Until more and more conflicting information began to see the light.

Curiosity Number Five:

John Lennon’s body was taken to Ferncliff Crematorium in Greenburgh, NY and cremated the following day, December 9th. The quick turnover leads many, including myself into speculation of why this was such a rushed decision. Lennon’s family back in the UK were not notified or asked for approval or even allowed to pay their respects to their beloved family member. What Yoko did with the ashes afterwards are also not known. It has been speculated that the ashes were scattered at Strawberry Fields memorial in New York’s Central Park, across the street from the Dakota building. Some people believe that Yoko still has them, and keeps them under her bed. A single photo was taken of John at the crematorium, and leaked to tabloids soon after.  This photo has always bugged me- it indeed looks like John (even though no one else recognized him that evening) but where is his ear?  Why has the edge of his face been smudged out like that? (He was not shot in the face). It is also reported that he lost 80% of his blood- his face has a great deal of life and color to it in this photo… is this really a picture of John Lennon’s lifeless body??


Regardless of your views of John Lennon, what he stood for (or didn’t)- his sudden and heinous death rocked the world as much if not more so as his controversial life. An icon of rock n roll, a major influence on culture of the 1960’s and beyond, an advocate for peace, awareness and understanding of the world we live in.  His assassin, described as a “lone nut” or “crazed fan” has been living out his 20 year sentence for the past 36 years. Chapman was declared legally sane, able to withstand normal incarceration. He was not found to be crazy, or even mentally unstable even though the main paradigm amongst Beatle fans and admirers and media paints him in that very light.

Was there more to this unfortunate incident than we are privy to? The two authors I have cited throughout this article both believe in the possibility of a second shooter. They each make very valid points regarding their suppositions based on the investigations they have conducted themselves. The present a very solid case. If a second shooter was present in this scenario, then we have a cover-up of immense proportions involving many collaborates. What would a cover-up of this magnitude mean for the reality of what might have really happened to John Lennon? In future articles, I plan to explore these angles of “what if” type scenarios.  I feel this article is a good foundation to prepare readers as to what is coming next. It is important information! I truly believe we have been lead astray as to the  true circumstances surrounding the death of John Lennon.

Was MDC a programmed patsy?

Was there a second shooter? and if so- who was he?

Was Lennon’s assassination ordered? By who?

Did John Lennon really die that evening?

These are some of the questions I hope to tackle in the very near future. I hope you will continue to read, do your own investigations if interested, and most importantly always question… everything.

I appreciate your taking the time to read this article, and I encourage your thoughts below. Thank you.

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  1. I assume you read Miles Mathis’s work on this? Him more retiring than being offed. Whatever really happened…it does seem like 100% shinnanigans…since very little “facts” add up. I remember a little boy(me) being very traumatized by this “death”. Even wierded to look back on this stuff and really know its a very “constructed” event…..grrr. Mathis has a article called something like ” I’d like to file a suspicious transaction report on the entire 20th century”. At least he got that right 🙂


    1. I have read Miles Mathis’s work on this (his paper is linked in the article) I am a fan and admirer of his work- not sure if he has everything right- but then again I’m not certain of anything at all so who knows?!?
      This article is just a foundation for what is coming next… I will be getting into the “what if” scenarios and implications of what a cover-up or even as Mathis has pointed out- possible retirement may mean. I just felt that readers may not know the weird anomalies and missing details surrounding John’s murder. There seems to be this huge cognitive dissonance when it comes to his murder. Most Beatle fans have blocked it out completely, are unwilling to even discuss such matters. In most “Beatle fan” groups on the internet, you are not allowed to even mention the name “Mark David Chapman” without censorship, deletion of comment with said name, or even risk expulsion from said groups. It’s really a psychological phenomenon that I believe to be 100% relevant and even coordinated to have that effect.
      Anyway, stay tuned. Thanks for reading!


  2. A good read (as is all of the site) – thank you!
    With regards to the main players on the night itself not recognising Lennon, it might be worth considering a couple of factors. Personally, I’ve always thought that the almost painfully thin John Lennon I’ve seen in photographs taken during his ‘comeback’ in 1980 looks almost nothing like the pre-1980 John Lennon. I’m not suggesting that he was ‘replaced’ but that a change in his diet may have led to this transformed appearance. It’s reported he was following a macrobiotic diet, hence his weight-loss – and perhaps, if we’re to believe one or two authors – there was an addiction to heroin also. The 1980 Lennon is (as I’ve already underlined) painfully thin, and his hair is possibly dyed too. He also has bags under those distinctive eyes of his – the only facial feature, in my opinion, that leads to me to recognise that the face I’m looking at is Lennon’s face at all. For a man who’d only just turned forty that year, the 1980 photos show a man who looks quite a bit older. He hasn’t aged well, in my opinion. Any way, point is, certain habits linked to Lennon’s daily routine and bodily intake had changed his facial appearance.
    Now… consider that Lennon had been out of the public eye for five years, so the folk who were tending to him on the night of the shooting wouldn’t have seen the present-day Lennon on their TVs or in newspapers for half a decade. Link this factor in with his changed facial features due to diet/drugs/premature ageing, and we might have an explanation here as to why he wasn’t recognised.
    I’m not attempting to poo-poo the idea that Lennon was ‘replaced.’ I’m merely throwing in some strands of info that are already out there, so, worth considering.

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    1. All good points. Thank you. And I agree to a certain extent- Sometimes, a person in death looks nothing like the person in life- especially after a horrific situation as what John went through on that fateful night. I have met a few celebrities myself over the years, (still alive of course) and each and every time I had to do a double take to make sure it was really them. You get this idea of what a celebrity looks like from your TV or Movie screen- personified in the most amazing way at times- what have you- but when you actually see them with your own eyes for what they really are, as they really look- often times you can be taken aback by how “real” they really are, or how “normal” they really seem to be or how different they look without the lighting, makeup, airbushing etc etc. It’s an odd thing really-
      So yes, I agree that is a possible reason why a whole host of people did not recognize the victim as being that of John Lennon that evening… but what about the rest of the anomalies?? Can they be explained so easily?
      Who was the driver of that Limo…? That should really be a very simple thing to find. But it isn’t. Why? Who was he? Where did he go? What did he see? These questions nag at me…
      Thanks for reading, and your insightful comment. Much appreciated.


  3. Hi dizzy… I’m with you regarding the “rest of the anomalies.” To a lesser extent, I’m also left scratching my head with regards to the ‘sudden’ appearance of Dr. Halleran. I can’t really expand on this any further at this point, although I do feel that I need to investigate this further. Perhaps it needs its own article-piece? Why didn’t any one come forward before – it’s been over 30 years after all.


  4. hey dizzy, thanks for the post. I thought I was the only one to see so many unusual details, and for a long time I had the idea that chapman would not have been the solitary gunman behind this, if you use something in another post about double fantasy, i sync it with the chapter 27 movie and they work very well, in “i’m losing you” and “watching the wheels” it’s great.


    1. Oh wow! Really?? I would really like to see that sync-up. That sounds fascinating. I have a friend who is really gifted doing the media sync thing… his name is David plate aka DVD Platypus. Are you familiar with him? I’m sure he would be really interested in your work on that too.
      Can you send me a link?
      I feel as though we owe it to John to explore this further- since no one else seems willing to do so. It still amazes me how many people stick their fingers in their ears and la la la la their way out of most discussions involving MDC and John’s death. Like a block to prevent further thought. Scary really when you think about it.
      Thank you for reading, and your comments. Much appreciated.


  5. have your read this article, the account from was a young ABC newsman called Alan Weiss ?

    or new book about who organized John’s death published in May, 2017:

    Also, on Friday, Dec 5th, John had called Aunt Mimi letting her know he was coming home for a visit soon and on Nov 28th, John states as part of a legal deposition for Apple Corps against the producers of the Beatlemania stage show, “I and the three other former Beatles have plans to stage a reunion concert,” an event to be filmed and included as the finale to ‘The Long and Winding Road’, an official Beatles produced documentary to be released in the mid-Eighties. John’s deposition was sealed until 6 years later when the case is settled on June 7, 1986. Source: Keith Badman ‘The Beatles: After the Breakup 1970-2000’ pg 269, published 2000.

    So someone knew that John was planning on reuniting with the other Beatles for a reunion concert and to return to England in January. John was one month away from becoming a US citizen, so perhaps he was waiting to get a US passport before his return to England but that hadn’t stopped him from making those long haul trips to Japan, Hong Kong and other places in the late 70s.

    John had given recent interviews in the days/weeks before he died that he was going to tour with Yoko in early 1981, but perhaps he said that to please Yoko but was planning otherwise and Yoko did not want to allow John to start stepping away from her. She needed complete control over him and wouldn’t allow him to re-unite with any of the Beatles.

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